Codes of war were very important to a Kshatriyan

and his lineage. They are still talked about for their innate decency and respect of the enemy and women. There exist old palm-leaf inscriptions on these topics. They are known to many a Kshatriyan families which still believe in the old ways of virtuous Kshatriya living. A trained Kshatriyan -it is said- is never trained till he knows and follows the codes of war.
The Kshatriyan codes of war are stuff of legends and folklore in India. Mahabharatha a Hindu epic also talks about war codes. Conclusive archaeological evidence has not yet been obtained but more or less all sources agree that such codes of war existed and they were followed. Some of the more important codes are listed below.
War should not affect the unarmed - meaning that the civilian population should not be attacked for any reason nor should the disarmed and seriously wounded soldiers or warriors unless it is for killing them as an act of mercy.
Rest should be provided for both sides - meaning that the war should not continue after sunset unless or otherwise it is a guerrilla war.
All foes should be defeated - meaning that even if your kinsman fought against you, you should not hesitate to defeat him.
Raids should not be undertaken unless completely necessary - meaning that a raid should not be undertaken unless the motive is to compensate for past losses or to humiliate the enemy.
Women should not be looked at unless she challenges you - meaning that unless a woman is in your enemy's army as a soldier or warrior you should not attack her. If the woman is the ruler then she can be attacked or asked to surrender only after the whole army is defeated.
A guerrilla war should not be waged unless the objective is victory - meaning that the warriors chosen for a guerrilla war should be the best, able to defeat any large army in the given situation and such an attack should be done only to attain a political goal and not to raid the enemy's supplies.
A traitor should never escape death - meaning that a traitor or defector of ones own army should be guaranteed death.
Kshatriya Dharma
Kshatriya Dharma is the rules to be followed by a Kshatriyan to do justice to his caste and status. It still exists in the more logical and evolved forms.
It used to be unthinkable for a Kshatriya to marry outside his class. It would be breaking the biggest tradition of his family and would cause disgrace to his whole family and community; this has still not changed for most families even today. There is a very strong emphasis on following the customs and traditions of the class which have evolved over centuries. In addition to these, further traditions specific to particular prominent Kshatriya families have been handed down through the generations. Following these traditions is a matter of such great honour and importance that breaking them has resulted in families splitting up or being excluded permanently from the caste (jāti) even in present times. The joint family system is still widely practised among the Kshatriya families and the family elders have the final say on all important decisions. It was believed that the Kshatriyas were assigned to be protectors of Dharma (duty/justice) and their people. They were sanctioned by God to serve humanity. The noble king is regarded as a Dharma Raja (Just Ruler). People ruled by aryas (honourable men) are led by the Divine light.
Kshtariya Dharma is specifically described in the Mahabharata: "Have you never heard the Kshatriya Dharma: Stand straight and never bow down, for this alone is manliness. Rather break at the knots than bend!"


These are codes long lost into days wars where women, children and the elderly are constantly put in harms way. Uncouth leaders and people of today think that our time is less barbaric and more civil then the older time but as stated by Srila Prabhupada when a society does not protect women, children, elderly and animals [these being more defenseless then most] it is not a human society but an animal one.

CHANTING UNTIL EVERYTHING VIBRATES HARE KRISHNA

Every thing is Made up of Krishna energies And krishna himself is present in every single Atom! I was chanting to night and I started to think of an old meditation I use to do, base on a martial Qigong [chinese yoga] breathing techniques. It entails breathing in and out using every cell in ones body, yes using the mind and being conscious of every cell in your body inhaling and exhaling vibrating in and out. Expanding further and further until your body is gone, and there nothing but expanding, contracting and vibrating. I have spent hours in deep meditation and I have felt my body vanish, no more, Impersonalist "yes" I was but even then I could always feel something deep within something consciously bigger then me "And here I am chanting the great Mantra of deliverance".

So I focus this time and envision every cell in my body chanting Gods holy name, in the beginning nothing really happen but then as my focus grew stronger and my consciousness expanded, from my thoughts of chanting, to just hearing and not just with my ears but my whole body, it started to sink in. My whole body started to vibrate Hare Krishna slowly everything vibrate Hare Krishna, My skin, my bones, the cells in my lungs it started to echo the floor I sat on the walls, the rooms vibrated Hare Krishna. Then my mind started to drifted thinking wow this feels awesome when I realize even the Atoms making up my thoughts Vibrated Hare Krishna, No matter what it was it started to vibrate Hare Krishna all the Atoms that made up anything my Emotion even my Anarthas where vibrating Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. My past my present my future all vibrating. For the first time at night I sat in one position unaffected by any numbness in my legs or back unaffected by my minds wondering off, because wherever it went there it was the Hare Krishna Mantra vibrating from every Atom. I was for the first time in all my years chanting in a trance.

By the end of it I sat in "silence" still hearing and feeling that vibration inside my whole being Hare Krishna, Then I remembered the law of vibration
The law of vibration says that everything in the universe is in a constant state of vibration. Everything, whether solid, liquid or gas is made up of energy and all forms of energy are constantly moving and vibrating. A rock, a person or a car may appear to be still but they are in fact […]

God makes up everything even our emotions and thoughts he is already vibrating this Mantra from within and without fro the subtle to the gross the micro to the macro from Spirit to matter. When we chant and truly listen there is no possible way for the mind or emotions to drifted off because they to vibrate the truth the essence "Hare Krishna".

Hare Krishna Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna Hare Hare/ Hare Rama Hare Rama, Rama Rama Hare Hare is a sound that is non-different from Krishna. The sound Krishna and the original Krishna are the same. There are things that we hear but do not see -- the wind may be whistling past our ears, and we can hear it, but there is no possibility of seeing the wind. Since hearing is no less an important experience or valid one than seeing, we can hear Krishna and realise His presence through sound. Sri Krishna Himself says, "I am not there in My abode, or in the heart of a meditating yogi, but where My pure devotees are singing." We can feel the presence of Krishna as we actually make progress.

Science+Consciousness= Philosophy

Its funny doing my research on science understanding of consciousness what i have found is that they don't really have any! it always goes back to philosophers. Why because can't give an answer into the nature of consciousness, "not yet any way" as they like to say.

Any way I found an article that says it all, and way better then I can. so here it is.

Science. Consciousness (and dare I say it?) God

by Peter Russell

Opening Speech given at First International Conference on Science and Consciousness, Albuquerque, April 1999



That this conference is taking place shows that the science of consciousness has at last come of age. But I think few people realize where it may be taking us. I believe it will eventually lead us to a new understanding of God.

Now, notions of God don’t go down very well in scientific circles. Paul Davies has written that science has looked out to the edges of the universe to deep space, into deep time -- to the beginning of the universe, and into deep structure -- to the basic level of the quantum. And science is proud to proclaim that it has found no need or place for God. The universe works perfectly well without any divine agent. Science has nicely got rid of God,-- thank you very much. But so far they have ignored an equally important fourth area of study -- that of the mind. I don't think any great spiritual teacher ever said God would be found out there at the edge of the universe. If God is to be found anywhere it is deep within ourselves, at the core of our own being.

Science is now just beginning to explore nature of consciousness, and we are still a very long way from understanding what we might call "deep mind." But I believe that when we delve into deep mind as fully as we have delved into deep space, deep time, and deep structure, then we will discover what the great spiritual teachers have been talking about for thousands of years. Science is going to find itself unwittingly having to explore the very topic it has so strenuously avoided for centuries.

Interestingly, when you look out into deep space, deep time, and deep structure, you don't find consciousness either. Consciousness is a huge problem for science. And yet it is the one thing that none of us can deny. We are conscious; we have experiences. We all experience being in this room. We may be having slightly different experiences of the room, we may even doubt the validity of some of our experiences, but we cannot doubt that we are experiencing beings. And yet there is nothing in the western scientific worldview that predicts that we, or any other living being, should have any mental experiences. Given that we do, there is no way of accounting for it. Christian de Quincey, from The Institute of Noetic Sciences, calls this the paradox of consciousness: Scientists are walking around every day with the indisputable fact of their own consciousness, and with absolutely no way of explaining it.

David Chalmers, philosophy professor at the University of Arizona, in Tucson, calls this the "hard problem" of science. The relatively "easy problems," and they are not actually that easy at all, are how the brain functions. Answering these questions will still take many years of dedicated research. But even if we do eventually understand the detailed workings of the brain, there will still remain the really hard problem as to how something as unconscious as matter can give ever rise to something as immaterial as consciousness. That's the hard problem. But I think it is not so much a hard problem as an impossible problem. Impossible, that is, within, the current scientific paradigm.

I believe the exploration of consciousness is going to force us to make a radical revision of the current scientific worldview. Let’s just recall for a moment what happened in a classic example of a paradigm shift, the Copernican Revolution. At that time, everyone believed the earth was still and the stars revolved around it. It seemed obvious. All you had to do was look out at the sky to see the sun going around each day, while the ground beneath your feet remained perfectly still. But there was a problem with this model. The planets did not move smoothly around the earth, they wandered amongst the other stars. Trying to account for the planets’ movements led to a whole series of complicated theories. Copernicus realized it was much easier to explain these anomalies if the earth were moving through space. However, this not only contradicted commonsense, it also went dead against the religious orthodoxy, so he kept his ideas to himself till just before he died. Later Galileo looked through his telescope and saw that Copernicus was right. But the Vatican put him under house arrest for the rest of his life to keep him from talking about this heresy. It was not until 150 years after Copernicus that Newton worked out the mathematical equations of planets orbiting the sun and proved the new Copernican paradigm to be correct.

I believe we are entering a similar process with regard to our understanding of consciousness -- except that the paradigm shift is going to be even more profound. Paradigms pertain to a particular science, but what is at stake here is the whole scientific worldview, the paradigm that lies behind all our scientific paradigms. This I call the superparadigm of modern science. In essence it states that the material world of space, time and matter is the real world. The big problem for this worldview is consciousness itself. As I said before, consciousness is absolutely undeniable, and also completely inexplicable. As far as the current superparadigm is concerned, consciousness is one big anomaly.

The way that Western science has dealt with the problem of consciousness has followed the pattern outlined by Thomas Kuhn, who coined the term "paradigm shift". The first thing science did was ignore it -- and for seemingly good reasons. First, you can't measure consciousness, it doesn't fit into the methods of science. Second, science has tried to be objective, eliminating the variables of subjective experience. And third, our understanding of the universe seems to work perfectly well without consciousness. So why bother?

But things have changed. Quantum physics has shown that consciousness may affect the reality we observe. In medicine there are many cases where the effect of attention or intention can promote healing, including the remote healing of other people. And there is a growing body of research of the brain that begs the question "What is consciousness, and how does it relate to the material world?"

Since consciousness can no longer be ignored, science has moved into the second phase -- that of trying to incorporate the anomaly within the existing paradigm. Francis Crick thinks consciousness is all to do with neuropeptides. Some believe the answers will be found in quantum coherence in the tiny microtubules found in nerve cells. Others think it has something to do with chaos and complexity theory. There are lots of interesting theories, but none of them say how any brain activity, quantum or otherwise, could ever give rise to a mental experience.

We are at a stage reminiscent of the medieval astronomers who kept trying to account for planetary movements with ever more cumbersome models, trying to fit them into the exiting paradigm. All our attempts to account for consciousness are doing so within a superparadigm that is essentially materialist in nature. Richard Dawkins, who popularized the idea the selfish gene, reflected this attitude at a recent talk in London when he said, "I cannot explain consciousness. No scientist I know of can explain consciousness. However, I have no doubt that we eventually will be able to explain consciousness".

I believe we will never be able to explain consciousness -- not within the current superparadigm at least. Eventually science will be forced to adopt a completely different model of reality; one in which consciousness is as fundamental as space, time, and matter -- perhaps even more fundamental.

Before continuing any further, I should explain what I mean by consciousness. In English, the word consciousness is used in many different ways, leading to a lot of confusion. We talk of someone who is awake as conscious, but not someone who is asleep. Yet a sleeping person may dream, and those dreams are mental experiences -- events in consciousness. Some claim that only human beings are conscious, meaning that only human beings have self-consciousness But a dog surely has experience, it isn't a biological robot. If we didn't think dogs had experiences we wouldn't give them anesthetics during operations.

When I speak of consciousness I am referring to the faculty of consciousness -- the capacity to have mental experiences. This is not something unique to human beings. I believe dogs have this faculty, so do dolphins, horses, cats and birds. So where do you draw the line? How far down the evolutionary tree does consciousness go? The classic view is that some form of nervous system is necessary. This is because the materialist superparadigm says that consciousness emerges from the world of space, time and matter, and needs some nervous system or something to create it. But if we shift to a model in which consciousness is a universal faculty, then maybe a nervous system is merely a particular amplifier of experience, or helps the experiences to take shape.

I think consciousness goes all the way down -- down to simple cells, even to pure, simple atoms. The normal objection to this proposal is that it implies rocks must have experiences, thoughts and feelings like human beings do. But it doesn't mean that at all. Maybe what goes on in the consciousness of a cell is one billionth of the richness of our experience; if so then what goes on in the consciousness of a rock may be one billionth times fainter still. Virtually nothing compared to us, but not absolutely nothing.

Now there are fascinating parallels between consciousness and light. Even in everyday language we speak of the Inner Light, the light of consciousness. St. John spoke of the light which lighteth every mind that came into the world. Just as consciousness is a big anomaly for the current scientific paradigm, so is light. Light moves at the same speed relative to all observers. No matter how fast you go, light will overtake you and go 186,000 miles/sec faster. Even if you accelerated yourself to 185,999 miles/sec, it would go 186,000 miles/sec faster, not 1 mile/sec faster. It was this anomaly that led Einstein to his famous Special Theory of Relativity. This predicts that the closer you approach the speed of light, the slower your clocks run, and the shorter your measurements of length. This goes completely against common sense, but it turns out that in this instance it is commonsense that is wrong. Atomic clocks have been flown around the world, and they do indeed slow down by the predicted amount.

You have probably heard that nothing can ever travel at the speed of light. The reason is that mass increases with speed, and at the speed of light an object’s mass would have become infinite, and it would take more than all the energy in the universe to accelerate the object up to light speed. But light travels at the speed of light, by definition, and the reason it can is that it always has zero mass. Einstein’s equations predict that from light’s own point of view time has stopped, and distance has shrunk to zero. So all light knows is now. It doesn't exist in time and space as we do. Light, somehow, lies beyond the world of space, time, and matter. It is not part of the material world.

The same could be said of consciousness. It seems to have no mass. And according to the mystics, who have delved into the nature of their own consciousness, time and space disappear when you get down to the deepest levels of consciousness. Saint Augustine said, "He that knows the truth, knows what this light is and that it is eternity". And Emerson said, "time and space are but the physiological colors the eye makes, the soul is light".

So I think there is more to this than verbal parallels. It seems to me that light is the first level of manifestation both in the physical realm and the realm of mind.

Immediately the phrase "God is Light" comes to the mind. And I think there may be more to this than we at first suppose. Mystics the world over have repeatedly claimed two things. First that the true nature of the self is pure consciousness, the light of consciousness. And second that the self is also identical with God.

Of course, saying that "I am God" doesn’t go down well in most cultures. When the German mystic Meister Eckhart said "I am God" or "I and God are One," the Vatican told him to recant. You can say you have the experience of God but not that you are God. But when the mystic says "I am God", they are not talking of the individual self, not the ego which identifies itself with things like "I am Peter Russell, I am British, I am male, I think these thoughts, etc., etc.". What they are really saying is that the pure self, the most fundamental level of our being, is God. In other words, God is consciousness -- not consciousness of any particular thing, but the very faculty of consciousness that is present in all things. As Ramana Maharshi said, "I Am is the name of God. God is none other than the self". Or, in the words of a Sufi mystic, "When thou knowest thine own existence, then thou knowest God".

This is where we end up once we start investigating the true nature of consciousness. Although science doesn’t realize it, once it embarks upon this exploration and begins to delve into deep mind, it is going to find itself confronting the one thing it has avoided and denied for so long -- the nature of God.

I’d like to close with a poem, A Sleep of Prisoners, which I think sums it all perfectly. It was written by Christopher Fry and comes from his play of the same:

The human heart can go the length of God
Dark and cold we may be
But this is no winter now
The frozen misery of centuries
Cracks, breaks, begins to move
The thunder is the thunder of the floes,
The thaw, the flood, the upstart spring.
Thank God our time is now
When wrong comes up to meet us everywhere
Never to leave us 'til we take

The greatest stride of soul folk ever took
Affairs are now soul size
The enterprise is exploration into God
But where are you making for
It takes so many thousand years to wake
But will you wake, for pity’s sake

GOOD DOGMA UNITES, BAD DOGMA SEPARATES

GOOD DOGMA UNITES, BAD DOGMA SEPARATES 7:26pm
One of the reasons i became a devotee of lord Krishna was the a ability of standing firm to the Bhakti process while seeing other paths as part of krishna's plans to help everyone out of this mess we put ourselves in, depending where ones consciousness is. After talking to many other persons on other paths for over two weeks now I know why I hated Religions in the first place and why I never wanted to be apart of them. This is the only process that can explain other processes of the world, in a way that is logical and commonsensical. What I've heard in the last week in a lot of other paths is the inability to explain why other processes exist without putting them down and trying to rip them apart. Even trying to find the commonness between us like compassion for all, Karma and for some reincarnation, the most I get is you're the devil trying to convert us [christians] there's nothing in common between "my" buddhism and "your" Hinduism [Buddhism] "like i own Hinduism" There are some people willing to listen and talk on other groups but usually they become over shadowed by the others who are not so into finding a common understanding between us. This to me was an experiment on other paths and where people are at in their beliefs. Not much has changed!!! This view is the Bad dogma I have always hated in religions, everyone has to accept a Dogma, but the Dogma that can unite, is one that is in accordance with all the scriptures of the world not including the satanic scripture. And a Dogma that causes separation, alienation, hatred and disunity is one that has nothing to do with any of the scriptures of the world. I have a better understanding where most religious people are at now. And all i can say is thank you Krishna for allowing me to see your words.

raja-vidya raja-guhyam
pavitram idam uttamam
pratyaksavagamam dharmyam
su-sukham kartum avyayam


TRANSLATION

This knowledge is the king of education, the most secret of all secrets. It is the purest knowledge, and because it gives direct perception of the self by realization, it is the perfection of religion. It is everlasting, and it is joyfully performed

HOW CAN WE HELP OTHERS! WHEN WE HAVE TROUBLE HELPING OUR SELVES!! PART 1

Who am I? I am a no one, no one important but I do believe in Krishna, Prabhupada and his movement. I am fairly new to Krishna consciousness in this life time its been around three years now I've had the honor of associating with the devotee's. In that time I have notice some things that I feel should not be over looked for a community thats trying to help others find their way back to Godhead.

I have notice that we have four regulation of no eating meat, no gambling, no intoxication and no illicit sex, But every where I see some of these principles being broken right in our community. I understand we are condition souls with many dirty things in our hearts "trust me I know" I am still praying that these impurities are cleansed from my heart, But what I don't get is when or who has decided that its fine to do these things openly in the community like nothing is wrong with it???? I know its hard to meet the standards but why on earth do we proclaim that there's nothing wrong with what I am doing?? Why are we changing the process to meet our needs? this is the first thing that contaminates all the religions of the world, The process says no chocolate so thats the process "NO CHOCOLATE" so if we have a chocolate addictions we should say " I am SORRY prabhu I have a problem please I wish to change and become better. I just need some time I know I am wrong, But instead we stand up proud-fully and proclaim I'm doing nothing wrong!!!! when Prabhupada ask about chocolate the devotee's at the time didn't give him the proper facts.
Now in the end we have to really ask ourselves is this really for Krishna pleasure or my own, because whether Prabhupada had all the facts or not! we are all addicted to this world and the so called pleasures of maya and thats a fact!!!
Are we really trying to get back to Godhead or just pretending? Do we really want to help people? Do we really want to serve? Or have we all become just another hypocritical religious process that points the finger at the rest of the world but never takes a look at ourselves?? And if that is the case! then as individuals isn't it time we change!! for our Guru for Prabhupada for all the pervious Acaryas for krishna and ultimately don't we owe it to all those lost souls in the world. To set the example, because if we don't then who will if we can't be real with ourselves be honest and admit we have a problem then how on earth are we going to help others???? we are a mess and a mess in denial is even worst then a mess willing to improve,grow and better it self! A mess thats proud to be a mess will only get dirtier but a mess in shame of being messy will eventually become clean.
So please ask your self are you proud and defensive about certain touchy subjects like chocolate and standing up in a roaring voice proclaiming I am right and Prabhupada's facts are wrong (on this matter).

So here is my honesty I eat chocolate once in a blue moon I am also addicted to Maya I am sorry, it is not acceptable and I wish to change please help me!!! "honestly" become a better person and a better devotee! The best I can do for now is keep it outside the community and work on the higher taste and hopefully i will lose taste for the lower ones.


So for the new devotees to come, for my daughter (just born) I ask for us to raise the standard for our community keep the nonsense out. Lets better ourselves lets help each other "please"
Your servant Ryan Lowseck

Body, mind and soul

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I PLAN TO WIN 11:10pm
1:Defeat the tendencies to be lazy and morose: THE BODY-Martial arts,Tai chi-wushu

2:Defeat the tendencies not to focus: THE MIND-Studying, philosophy,science, arguing.

3:And to defeat the tendencies to think I'm either of these two: THE SPIRIT-To hear about krishna, to talk about Krishna, to chant his holy names and to associate with his Devotees.

THE VERY NATURE OF SELFISHNESS BLINED-SIGHT'S US

I recently had a close relative come and stay with me for a couple of weeks, she was coming to help my wife and I with the birth of our new baby. After she left I was left in awe to see how blind-sighted we are to our own selfishness and how that- very selfishness convinces us to believe we are really really good people. I will use this relatives stay with us as an example of this reality, after my daughter was born my wife was exhausted after losing so much blood, her iron levels where very low and had very little energies for anything else but for the attention of our daughter, so Bea some days was just hiding away in the bed room bonding with Tulasi and regaining her strength. This relative that was feeling a little neglected and on some days of not seeing Tulasi, started to feel a little upset. Then came the depression and tears, she wanted to help and her heart was in the right place. But in that very notion of helping us was the tint of what she wanted, and because she was not getting what she needed from us and the new baby the whole atmosphere of the house became tense. Bea started to stress [the last thing anyone needs after giving birth] which then just made her more exhausted.

THIS IS JUST A ROUGH SKECTH OF WHAT HAPPEN
Now as the third person in all this I could see that selfishness exists in all of us, but some peoples needs at certain times comes before our own [eg like a new mum that has just given birth]. But what surprised me [ I don't know why it surprised me] was how this relative started to say things like "I 'am just trying to help, I don't or didn't want to upset any one" So I confronted her by saying yes I know that was not your intention but because your not getting to see Tulasi as much as you like and Bea doesn't have much energy and time to give you. Your getting upset with all this" [then the old make you feel guilty act jumps in] "fine I'll just leave then" "no one wants me here". "I said look no one wants you to leave no one said that or has expressed that, if you want to help then do what you can. But the very fact that we have to deal with this is draining our energies, especially Beas, just help do what you can"

But even after talking with her for 2 hrs straight nothing change, but she honestly thought she was doing the right thing or that she was in the right and her feeling where the reality of the situation. And maybe a small fraction of what she was feeling was correct, and we were not meeting her needs. But this got me pondering and I started to meditate on how hidden this nature was. I know I have many faults but maybe there is more then I can see??? the very fact that most people consider them selves to be good like this close relative but couldn't see this inherit flaw "what about me" as a flaw in her good character. She thought it normal to behave like this and that she had no wrong part in the tension what so ever. obviously as devotees we understand that we are just covered in the modes, but I tried to explain the modes to her but she couldn't identify the modes with herself. "What's that got to do with me" she said "so your telling me you can't see what's wrong with this attitude of what about me, me me me me me.



It's about me, I want to be the centre, I want to be God!!! This is our first sin the apple in the bible and this is the covering that has become so thick that now we are blind. I am not just talking about my relative but every single one of us, and most defiantly this includes "me". So if I am blind I must seek help from some one who can see "naturally" its the most commonsensical thing to do, is it not?

selfish |ˈselfi sh |
adjective
(of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure :
DERIVATIVES
selfishly adverb
selfishness noun

selfless |ˈselfləs|
adjective
concerned more with the needs and wishes of others than with one's own; unselfish : an act of selfless devotion.
DERIVATIVES
selflessly adverb
selflessness noun

Indeed this is the greatest journey in life the most exciting endeavor and the most rewarding experience we can ever have [ destroying our false reality of mind,intelligence and false ego and uncovering our real selves]. This is the greatest battle on this planet and the only one worth fighting, lets start by observing others devotees non-devotees and see how covered they are. So you may know how covered you are! how selfish, self absorb and how much we are addicted to that reality of "ME",me,me,me,me,me,me. Fight and win the battle for Krishna you can't lose all you have to do is stand up and fight never give up and become the pure servant we already are. Hare Krishna :]